The war was lost in 1954 when the French were removed from Indochina
before it was renamed Vietnam. That was the beingging of a very sad and
sorry end which was completed in 1975.

After spending $163bn in 17yrs what did the US achieve one asks?
Anything of benefit? Id be hard pressed to name one thing war produces
that helps society, besides wasting money and killing people.

"Aerophotos" > wrote in message
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> The war was lost in 1954 when the French were removed from Indochina
> before it was renamed Vietnam. That was the beingging of a very sad and
> sorry end which was completed in 1975.
>
> After spending $163bn in 17yrs what did the US achieve one asks?

The spread of communism was stopped at Vietnam; a result identical to JFK's
stated intention for going to war.

>> After spending $163bn in 17yrs what did the US achieve one asks?
>
>The spread of communism was stopped at Vietnam; a result identical to JFK's
>stated intention for going to war.
>

Are you forgetting the Carter years?


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)

"Ron" > wrote in message
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> >> After spending $163bn in 17yrs what did the US achieve one asks?
> >
> >The spread of communism was stopped at Vietnam; a result identical to
JFK's
> >stated intention for going to war.
> >
>
> Are you forgetting the Carter years?

Carter was in favor of America giving in and becomming communist. I admit
that Carter nearly undid JFK's promise, not to mention destroying the US
economy. Oh yea, Carter also lost Iran and put Saddam in charge of Iraq and
....

Aerophotos

You seem to forget all the medical and technological advances that were made
in the last century of conflict that benefit the 'entire' world today.

Just a friendly reminder, the military did not lose the war in Viet Nam. It
was the gutless politicians!!!

Cheers...Chris

Tarver Engineering wrote:
> Carter was in favor of America giving in and becomming communist.

I believe that a citation is in order here. Since when was Carter in
favor of America becoming communist?

>The spread of communism was stopped at Vietnam

A couple of million dead Cambodians would disagree with you. Although the Khmer
Rouge musn't have been "good" communists or their friendly communist neighbors
wouldn't have invaded them in 1978.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"BUFDRVR" > wrote in message
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> >The spread of communism was stopped at Vietnam
>
> A couple of million dead Cambodians would disagree with you. Although the
Khmer
> Rouge musn't have been "good" communists or their friendly communist
neighbors
> wouldn't have invaded them in 1978.

Killing Cambodians was always on the NVA schedule.

"Ron" > wrote in message
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> >> After spending $163bn in 17yrs what did the US achieve one asks?
> >
> >The spread of communism was stopped at Vietnam; a result identical to
JFK's
> >stated intention for going to war.
> >
>
> Are you forgetting the Carter years?

I'm scratching my head here trying to figure exactly what you're talking
about. No country "went Communist" during the Carter administration.

tim gueguen 101867

tim gueguen wrote:

>>>> After spending $163bn in 17yrs what did the US achieve one asks?
>>>
>>> The spread of communism was stopped at Vietnam; a result identical to JFK's
>>> stated intention for going to war.

Although concern about the domino effect might have pushed us into an active
participation in VN, I didn't think it was what stopped the spread of communism.
What stopped it was the shear weight of its inherent baggage.....it wasn't going
to continue to expand because it couldn't in competition with the capitalist
system, so that was really irrelevent as far as VN was concerned. There are
only a few places in the world where it's still functioning.....Albania, Cuba,
China. Are there any others that I've missed? The USSR and Yugoslavia have
both disintegrated in recent years. IOW, it was a dying system that just hasn't
stopped twitching yet.

George Z.
>
> tim gueguen 101867

>There are
>only a few places in the world where it's still functioning.....Albania,

Albania ditched their communist system in the early 90's didn't it?

>Cuba,
>China. Are there any others that I've missed?

North Korea


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"BUFDRVR" > wrote in message
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> >There are
> >only a few places in the world where it's still functioning.....Albania,
>
> Albania ditched their communist system in the early 90's didn't it?
>
> >Cuba,
> >China. Are there any others that I've missed?
>
> North Korea

China & North Korea are totalitarian that once were communist or
paid lip service to it at least. China has been slowly drifting off
in the direction of capitalism if not democracy for some time.
North Korea, well, North Korea is the purest example of totalitarian
control on the face of the earth, communism is irrelevant, there
is only the beloved leader.